Five Jamaican sprinters test positive, Bold needs to brush up on his stock reply about doping positives Options

[formerlyfit]

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Bolt's reaction quote

Olympic 100 and 200m champion Usain Bolt was also asked about the news after finishing his heat in London.

“I heard it was a rumour, not that it was true, so I don’t know. I don’t know much about that, you just have to ask my agent now.

[MacRoadie]

So the Jamaicans get popped for the ganga? For God's sake man, that's like Johnny Smalltown USA testing positive for Wheaties!

Hell, they should just be given an automatic TEU, or maybe a CEU (cultural use exemption ) and be done with it...

This post has been edited by MacRoadie: Jul 24 2009, 06:49 PM

[The Rake]

A bit annoying. GP of London this weekend, and the commentators (incl. Colin Jackson) brushing it off because it wasn't the big Jamaican stars.

Just the rest of them....

Isn't it correct that the Jamaican Olympic committee doesn't do OOCs and the big stars trained in Jamaica before the Olympics?

This post has been edited by The Rake: Jul 24 2009, 11:19 PM

[Jokke]

Four of the names are out. Marvin Anderson, Lanceford Spence, Sheri Ann Brooks and Yohan Blake who was running the London GP while the names came to public and finished second in fact.

[VdB]

Someone could make a lot of money off Bolt as a communications advisor on this stuff. God knows we're seasoned by now.

Repeat after me Usain: you are tranquil, and you had absolutely no idea that they were doping. You are outraged (but say it with a straight face) and happy for the sport that these cheaters were caught. However, they're 'good guys' and you will definitely give them a second chance when they are back from their suspensions. In fact, you'll keep training with them throughout - you're just that kind of stand-up guy.

Also, you have no idea what doping is and where it came from. You will then say that your sport is not anywhere near as dirty as, say, cycling.

That should do the trick. Where can I cash my cheque?

[The Rake]

Someone could make a lot of money off Bolt as a communications advisor on this stuff. God knows we're seasoned by now.

Repeat after me Usain: you are tranquil, and you had absolutely no idea that they were doping. You are outraged (but say it with a straight face) and happy for the sport that these cheaters were caught. However, they're 'good guys' and you will definitely give them a second chance when they are back from their suspensions. In fact, you'll keep training with them throughout - you're just that kind of stand-up guy.

Also, you have no idea what doping is and where it came from. You will then say that your sport is not anywhere near as dirty as, say, cycling.

That should do the trick. Where can I cash my cheque?

Don't forget the killer line: BTW I have never tested positive

[bartlebythegeo]

Don't forget the killer line: BTW I have never tested positive

I know this is an attempt to be funny, but it's really ridiculously stupid. You're essentially saying that stating "I have never tested positive" is actually is evidence of doping by whomever says it.

[The Rake]

I know this is an attempt to be funny, but it's really ridiculously stupid. You're essentially saying that stating "I have never tested positive" is actually is evidence of doping by whomever says it.

Actually, yes, it is wordplay. Following a trend. "Tranquil" is another word used to mean the same thing.

[Roadent]

I know this is an attempt to be funny, but it's really ridiculously stupid. You're essentially saying that stating "I have never tested positive" is actually is evidence of doping by whomever says it.

Er, you might want to check back on the history of "I've never tested positive"....Ask Marion Jones, for example. Why would anyone say "I've never tested positive" when it's much easier to say "I don't dope", especially if it's the truth - ask Contador, oh, wait, someone did in his post-Ventoux press conference:

AC: ...I’ve been available for all the anti-doping controls during the entire year, and there’s been a lot. I think that’s great, because it’s good for cycling. I will keep doing so long as I am still a racer.

Um, that's like saying "I've never tested positive", isn't it? Not exactly "I don't dope" is it?

Sorry, barleby, next time I hear that expression from someone who isn't a doper, I'll let you know...

[Kiwi]

"The word out of Berlin last night was that the PED of the day is SARMS (selective androgen receptor modulation). The most popular version is Ostarine which has the body building qualities of an anabolic steroid but does not touch the athlete's endocrine profile and is thereby undetectable in current tests."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/bolt...0-1225762939178

Drugs staying ahead of the testing, a familiar story...

[D-Queued]

...Drugs staying 2m ahead of the testing, a familiar story...

Isn't that what you meant?

...when Canada's drug-fuelled Ben Johnson crushed Carl Lewis to win the Seoul Olympics 100m 21 years ago, he ran a time experts said seemed "too good to be true" - yet with his discredited time of 9.79sec Johnson would have finished 2m behind Bolt.

It is doubtful human genetics has advanced that much in a couple of decades, nor has the science of sprint coaching,

Dave.

[Burkni]

It is doubtful human genetics has advanced that much in a couple of decades

Unless we are already at the point where genetics can be modified.

[VdB]

Unless we are already at the point where genetics can be modified.

We should really ban those dastardly powerbars.

[weezy]

Unless we are already at the point where genetics can be modified.

there was more to this interview or else there was also another interview that i can't find a transcript for:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...oryId=111966837

but the (other?) person being interviewed yesterday predicted that the current record would be shattered eventually

[Tom T.]

The Jamaicans seem to be on a good "program". First and third in the Men's 100 and first and second in the women's 100. They also won by a lot. The question in the Men's 200 is not if Bolt will break the world record but by how much.

[OAR]

I have also heard that the Jamaican Team does not do OOC testing. That may be just rumor.

What the results over the weekend do show in my opinion is the complete lack or sense of reality the viewing and commentating/reporting public have. If you watched the race it was a joke, the first 2 placements were so fast it makes the 100m a scientific experiment.
Nothing in genetics or training has changed since 1980’s and all the fast runners who raced on that day in 1988 at the 100m final were later found to have tested positive for banned substances. Only ONE of those runners from the 88 Olympics were required to give back their medals, some poor guy from Canada who happened to be Jamacian.


When you see results that appear just to be so fast that it can not be real ……..well it is up to the viewer to make their own mind up. My mind about runners was made up when I entered Junior College, noting to myself that it appears that NO ONE is running clean. Your mileage may vary but my weekly mileage is high.

[OAR]

I guess my post was a thread killer.

[D-Queued]

I guess my post was a thread killer.

... Sorry, I actually had to do real work today...

.... Only ONE of those runners from the 88 Olympics were required to give back their medals, some poor guy from Canada who happened to be Jamacian.
....

Apparently Canadians are the brunt of doping jokes.

...there were three guys, two Jamaicans and one American...
...the first Jamaican says let's try doping...
...the American says, I have to talk to the USOC first and arranges a free pass...
...the second Jamaican says, I have to talk to my federation and get out of any OOC testing...
...the first Jamaican becomes a Canadian and says, hey I got both of you. Dick Pound has agreed to represent me at my tribunal. You know, it is rumored that he will head up some new World anti-doping thing...

Dave.

This post has been edited by D-Queued: Aug 19 2009, 01:10 AM

[G-Whacker]

If you watched the race it was a joke, the first 2 placements were so fast it makes the 100m a scientific experiment.

Nice turn of phrase there.

[OAR]

... Sorry, I actually had to do real work today...
Apparently Canadians are the brunt of doping jokes.

...there were three guys, two Jamaicans and one American...
...the first Jamaican says let's try doping...
...the American says, I have to talk to the USOC first and arranges a free pass...
...the second Jamaican says, I have to talk to my federation and get out of any OOC testing...
...the first Jamaican becomes a Canadian and says, hey I got both of you. Dick Pound has agreed to represent me at my tribunal. You know, it is rumored that he will head up some new World anti-doping thing...

Dave.

well I tried to get someone to post that the flame Carl Lewis was clean when he was in Tokyo 199??something or another. I was there and it was something to watch! Now this weekend I watched another similar track and field meet that left me with the same feeling. False racing. Anyone who tells me that it is real can go and #### off!

This post has been edited by OAR: Aug 19 2009, 03:25 AM