Thomas Dekker to be sacked... Options

[Strategy]

According to TV2 Sports, Thomas Dekker will be sacked by Rabobank.

The reasons are that Dekker is no longer trusted by the team. He was one of the 30 riders warned by the UCI due to irregularities in his UCI biopassport. Due to these irregularities, Rabobank pulled him from the Tour squad (they did not want a repeat of the Rasmussen case) and Dekker was so dissappointed by the decision that he abandoned the Tour de Suisse.

Following this, the team has apparently not been able to get hold of Dekker (his whereabouts info was also not correct). As a result, the team's lawyers are now instigating proceedings to terminate Dekker's contract with Rabobank.

[VdB]

Sigh.

[Tick]

The situation is totally unclear at this point, with everybody pretty much denying everything. Dekker is expected to issue a statement this afternoon.

Stay tuned.....

edit: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=new...ul08/jul28news3

This post has been edited by Tick: Jul 28 2008, 12:21 PM

[rational head]

Please note that RTT sensed something afoot a while back...

http://www.dailypelotonforums.com/main/ind...st&p=122917

and on a different but related note, some within Russian Fed speculate that Gusev could have slipped into a similar position with Astana. Reports of disagreements with the team management and potential "file" in WADA/UCI...

[bodomaniac]

Please note that RTT sensed something afoot a while back...

http://www.dailypelotonforums.com/main/ind...st&p=122917

and on a different but related note, some within Russian Fed speculate that Gusev could have slipped into a similar position with Astana. Reports of disagreements with the team management and potential "file" in WADA/UCI...

You know, it would be nice if the UCI would someday release the names of the supposed 30 riders that have suspect blood profiles so that we avoid having it leaked out one rider at a time. This is part of what frustrates me and many others regarding the policies of the UCI.

[RTT]

Please note that RTT sensed something afoot a while back...

http://www.dailypelotonforums.com/main/ind...st&p=122917

I have a penchant for buggery...

You know, it would be nice if the UCI would someday release the names of the supposed 30 riders that have suspect blood profiles so that we avoid having it leaked out one rider at a time. This is part of what frustrates me and many others regarding the policies of the UCI.

I am not so sure knowing the names will aide the situation, and I don't think those names would be released in a massive communiqué anyways..

[bodomaniac]

I am not so sure knowing the names will aide the situation, and I don't think those names would be released in a massive communiqué anyways..

If the UCI's involved, of course not. You'll be lucky to get dribs and drabs of information at most, while they work behind the scenes to bribe teams of money in order to keep certain riders names from becoming public.

[Maya]

another supposed "super talented" rider can seem to go without the juice.

please, moratorium on saying so and so is/was talented -- there is really no way of knowing at this point.

and this is precisely what has made cycling pointless from a fan's perspective.

[D-Queued]

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and on a different but related note, some within Russian Fed speculate that Gusev could have slipped into a similar position with Astana. Reports of disagreements with the team management and potential "file" in WADA/UCI...

Sure appears like a convenient way to get rid of someone you don't like any more.

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Following this, the team has apparently not been able to get hold of Dekker (his whereabouts info was also not correct). As a result, the team's lawyers are now instigating proceedings to terminate Dekker's contract with Rabobank.

Perhas they should ask Rasmussen. Following in his footsteps, Dekker may be with his mistress in Italy...

Dave.

[MacRoadie]

I have a penchant for buggery...

"I do not think that word means what you think it means."

Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride

[option]

I have a penchant for buggery...

Yikes! That's not the sort of thing that people publicly confess to.

[RTT]

Yikes! That's not the sort of thing that people publicly confess to.

It was a joke.. sheesh.. haven't you seen Austin Powers???

"I do not think that word means what you think it means."

Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride

it's a bit "unnatural"...

[Hombre]

And dont let the door hit yer arse on the way out Tommy.
Didnt ya get the memo.
Doping is out.

No one else recall the discussions about how this time trialer was going over the big cols last year with only Rasm, Mench, Cadel, Levi and Contador and a couple of others. I do. He stunk then and I guess has been found out.

[fondriestfan]

I have a penchant for buggery...

LOLZ

[OAR]

Sigh.

F HUCK an A man! WTF is going on!

come ON ROBO-BANK! at this rate I will not have any riders to be a fan!

I have a penchant for buggery...
I am not so sure knowing the names will aide the situation, and I don't think those names would be released in a massive communiqué anyways..

Huge ... I mean really HUGE!

[Jan the man]

And dont let the door hit yer arse on the way out Tommy.
Didnt ya get the memo.
Doping is out.

No one else recall the discussions about how this time trialer was going over the big cols last year with only Rasm, Mench, Cadel, Levi and Contador and a couple of others. I do. He stunk then and I guess has been found out.

Shame you can only say these things when it involves a rider you have no love for. I don't recall you throwing mud at big George when he was destroying climbers on the big Alpine cols and winning a mountain stage at Pla d'Adet.

[Leafcake]

Didnt ya get the memo.

It’s all a bit of a déjà vu with Thomas Dekker. In 2006 Rabobank withdrew his participation just a few days prior to the start of the Tour. Those were the hot OP days, and just like Basso, T Dekker was a Cecchini client. Does T Dekker have a ? Would not be surprised if he had. So he was warned by the UCI in 2008; quite possibly he was warned by them in 2006 as well.

In my mind T Dekker and Brajkovic are very much paired. With less than a year between them, their ways had crossed competing over the same prizes. Both turned pro during 2005. I can’t say they are equally talented, and as before, they have been doing different programs under different guidance. Yet ever since 2007, while Dekker went on with his exploits, Brajkovic’s results seemed to have plummeted. Is this something about injuries etc. or, was someone better in reading the memo?

[rational head]

From CN:


UCI says Dekker's blood values ok
Thomas Dekker has released to Cyclingnews the letter he received from the UCI confirming his right to ride.

The letter, which was sent by e-mail and signed by UCI doctor Dr. Mario Zorzoli, said, "This is to confirm that all tests results of 2008 that are known to UCI show that the blood values of Thomas Dekker ... did not exceed any limits which would have required the imposition of a declaration of incapability under UCI's current regulations."

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RH comment: note, this is NOT the same as a green light statement about his bio passport. This merely states that he did not cross the UCI legal limits, like 50% Hct or 17 g/dL hemoglobin or off-score of 133. That's the only basis under which the UCI can stop him from racing. With all that he can be one of the 23 "suspects" and still receive the OK letter.Incidentally, Gusev is basically in the same situation despite being fired by Astana. Yesterday, Gripper told Russian officials that he is free to race including the Olympics.

[Hombre]

From CN:
UCI says Dekker's blood values ok
Thomas Dekker has released to Cyclingnews the letter he received from the UCI confirming his right to ride.

The letter, which was sent by e-mail and signed by UCI doctor Dr. Mario Zorzoli, said, "This is to confirm that all tests results of 2008 that are known to UCI show that the blood values of Thomas Dekker ... did not exceed any limits which would have required the imposition of a declaration of incapability under UCI's current regulations."

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RH comment: note, this is NOT the same as a green light statement about his bio passport. This merely states that he did not cross the UCI legal limits, like 50% Hct or 17 g/dL hemoglobin or off-score of 133. That's the only basis under which the UCI can stop him from racing. With all that he can be one of the 23 "suspects" and still receive the OK letter.Incidentally, Gusev is basically in the same situation despite being fired by Astana. Yesterday, Gripper told Russian officials that he is free to race including the Olympics.

Exactly!

Do the teams have access to the biopassport or just with riders' permission only.

He is so screwed.

Shame you can only say these things when it involves a rider you have no love for. I don't recall you throwing mud at big George when he was destroying climbers on the big Alpine cols and winning a mountain stage at Pla d'Adet.

I have no love for him BECAUSE he is unbelievable.

George has never been let go from a team because of blood irregularities..
You just cant stand it when I'm right, can you?
Face it, I was right. I predicted this.
Last year in the tour.
I called it a loooong time ago and now I am going to gloat.

[D-Queued]

...
Face it, I was right. I predicted this.
Last year in the tour.
I called it a loooong time ago and now I am going to gloat.

Ok?

You predicted that there would be doping in cycling?

Care to provide us with the odds on doping in cycling next year?

Dave.