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#1 User is offline   CAMPYBOB 

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 05:38 PM

que cera, cera!

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=new...t08/oct13news3a
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 05:47 PM

Lots of speculation on this. Is he thinking about a Giro/TDF double? Or if he did win the Giro, would he then announce his willingness to work for Contador? If a poor Tour performance followed a Giro win, would he have an excuse? If he performed poorly in the Giro, would he say it was just a training ride?

Based on his unwillingness to ride the Giro in the past, it's hard to see him going all out in it, unless he finds himself deep in the race with a chance to win. Or unless his early season performances convince him he can't win the Tour.
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 05:58 PM

Suppose it's to let the French know there are other grand tours? Besides the fight against cancer, he is helping to prevent the French head from exploding like a balloon.


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Posted 13 October 2008 - 06:06 PM

He probably chose the Giro as Zomegan promised they wouldn't test for CERA. tongue.gif
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 06:16 PM

QUOTE(vanishingPoint @ Oct 13 2008, 07:58 PM) View Post

Suppose it's to let the French know there are other grand tours? Besides the fight against cancer, he is helping to prevent the French head from exploding like a balloon.

He is a current day Superman, fighting evil on all fronts. Cancer is evil, the French are evil. French cancer is perhaps the ultimate evil.

The Tour is by far the biggest and the bestest of all bike races, dwarfing the pretenders. This is fact, whether you like it or not.
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 06:44 PM

QUOTE(frenchfry @ Oct 13 2008, 11:16 AM) View Post

He is a current day Superman, fighting evil on all fronts.

Has anyone confirmed the whereabouts of Armstrong the day Evel Kneivel died?

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 06:46 PM

QUOTE(vanishingPoint @ Oct 13 2008, 07:58 PM) View Post

Suppose it's to let the French know there are other grand tours? Besides the fight against cancer, he is helping to prevent the French head from exploding like a balloon.

ChrisH will ban you for those words, that is against the rules! helmet.gif I wear a helmet to avoid explosion!
bye bye! laugh.gif

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 07:34 PM

I looooooooove cancer!
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Thanks lancer
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 07:52 PM

QUOTE(CAMPYBOB @ Oct 13 2008, 11:38 AM) View Post

que CERA, CERA!



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Brilliant, Campy.
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 07:54 PM

Why is a topic about Lance riding the Giro in the doping forums?
Cancer lovin dweebs.
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Check out the real dopers like Kohl.
All of Kohl's defenders can now step forward and take what they so justly deserve.
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 08:15 PM

St Lance - fearlessly raising awareness of Kazakh Railways in testing free environments - Borat must be so proud
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE(Hombre @ Oct 13 2008, 12:54 PM) View Post

Cancer lovin dweebs.


You know, I've seen you repeat this ad nauseum and I tried to hold my tongue but I've finally had enough. It is repugnant that you feel empowered to adopt the moral high ground and assume how I feel about cancer.

You're not worth my time, but here goes. I lost both my mother (ovarian) and father (mesothelioma) to cancer. I've also lost 2 aunts to breast cancer as well.

It took cancer only 4 months to take my mom, but only after two operations (including losing her large intestine and receiving a colostomy tube), chemo, and the slow starvation that seems to always accompany the disease.

My dad's cancer was more insidious. Mesothelioma is a cancer of the abdominal lining and is the deadliest form of asbestosis. Due to it's nature, mesothelioma results in a multitude of small cancerous tumors dispersed throughout the abdomen and on the internal organs. It is inoperable. My dad went from a strong, vibrant man who spent his entire life in the construction trades and competed at high levels as a competitive cyclist both here in the US and back in Scotland, to a bedridden shell of a human being. It took cancer over a year to take his life and at the end, he was so weak I had to lift him on and off the toilet, he had withered away to less than 80 pounds, but had a stomach that made him look 9 months pregnant. He probably would have died earlier, but my wife was pregnant with my son and my dad refused to die before he got to see his grandson. He too died of starvation. As is the case with many cancers, the cancer may be the disease, but the cause of death is starvation. I watched both my parents starve to death.

My story is not unique, I know there are others on this forum with family members and other loved ones battling this heinous disease even today. I won't betray their confidence, but they do exist. Just because we take exception to comments or positions taken here doesn't mean any of us embraces cancer. We hate it with every fiber of our bodies. Any suggestion to the contrary is baseless and simply ridiculous.

The last thing I need is some idiot on an internet forum telling me I love cancer.

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 11:05 PM

Sorry to sound like a broken record, but once again I ask, can anyone explain to me how Lance's comeback has so far benefited cycling or the fight against cancer?
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 11:36 PM

...how I feel about cancer.

chill bro. we all been down that road. god bless all those that have been touched by cancer.

cancer killed my mother the second time around (breast cancer in 1954 and lung cancer in 1994). my wife went thru an instance of basal cell carcinoma or whatever they call skin cancer.

hombre was just making with a joke. don't let your anger make you look all whazzo. if anyone was getting slammed, it was me. i'm the dweebo that posted this thread in the doperz forum.

i figured if i posted it in the giro or cycling forums, the immediate and rabid doperz responses from...well, maybe they be best left un-named...would get the thread moved here faster than lance can sew up an 8th victory.


Sorry to sound like a broken record, but once again I ask, can anyone explain to me how Lance's comeback has so far benefited cycling or the fight against cancer?

raising both money and awareness. like any modern diseaese to be conquered, cancers are a big business. and frankly i don't give a damn who gets wealthy off cancer's back as long as the damn crap is cured...and the sooner, the better.

i dunno what you're doing towards that end, but i realy doubt you need me, explaining to you, what lance is doing for cancer. ##### about lance all you want when it comes to his supposed doping, but for god's sake, have the good grace to give the guy a pass when it comes to what he does for cancer patients, research and the search for the cures.

i would repost the specific links to his website and that of others that detail all he has done, is doing and will continue to do...but, it's as wasted an effort as any keystrokes i've ever typed.

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 11:43 PM

QUOTE(MacRoadie @ Oct 13 2008, 03:00 PM) View Post

You know, I've seen you repeat this ad nauseum and I tried to hold my tongue but I've finally had enough. It is repugnant that you feel empowered to adopt the moral high ground and assume how I feel about cancer.

You're not worth my time, but here goes. I lost both my mother (ovarian) and father (mesothelioma) to cancer. I've also lost 2 aunts to breast cancer as well.

It took cancer only 4 months to take my mom, but only after two operations (including losing her large intestine and receiving a colostomy tube), chemo, and the slow starvation that seems to always accompany the disease.

My dad's cancer was more insidious. Mesothelioma is a cancer of the abdominal lining and is the deadliest form of asbestosis. Due to it's nature, mesothelioma results in a multitude of small cancerous tumors dispersed throughout the abdomen and on the internal organs. It is inoperable. My dad went from a strong, vibrant man who spent his entire life in the construction trades and competed at high levels as a competitive cyclist both here in the US and back in Scotland, to a bedridden shell of a human being. It took cancer over a year to take his life and at the end, he was so weak I had to lift him on and off the toilet, he had withered away to less than 80 pounds, but had a stomach that made him look 9 months pregnant. He probably would have died earlier, but my wife was pregnant with my son and my dad refused to die before he got to see his grandson. He too died of starvation. As is the case with many cancers, the cancer may be the disease, but the cause of death is starvation. I watched both my parents starve to death.

My story is not unique, I know there are others on this forum with family members and other loved ones battling this heinous disease even today. I won't betray their confidence, but they do exist. Just because we take exception to comments or positions taken here doesn't mean any of us embraces cancer. We hate it with every fiber of our bodies. Any suggestion to the contrary is baseless and simply ridiculous.

The last thing I need is some idiot on an internet forum telling me I love cancer.


That's a sad story MacRoadie. I also have had experience losing a loved one to cancer, as I'm sure many people on the board have.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to comments like "Cancer lovin dweebs." This statement is also coming from someone who believes everyone except Armstrong is on PEDs. Obviously we're dealing with limited intelligence here...
Regards and ride clean,

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 11:45 PM

QUOTE(CAMPYBOB @ Oct 13 2008, 04:36 PM) View Post

...how I feel about cancer.

chill bro. we all been down that road. god bless all those that have been touched by cancer.

cancer killed my mother the second time around (breast cancer in 1954 and lung cancer in 1994). my wife went thru an instance of basal cell carcinoma or whatever they call skin cancer.

hombre was just making with a joke. don't let your anger make you look all whazzo. if anyone was getting slammed, it was me. i'm the dweebo that posted this thread in the doperz forum.



Bob, your story emphasizes just how many of us are afected by cancer, and just how stupid Hombre's incessant use of that "cancer lover" term is. The problem is that he has been told repeatedly that it isn't funny, yet he persists in using it. Once or twice maybe, but if you do a search you'll probably find it used a dozen times or more

He knows it offends people but he continues to do it. Normally, I would be in the "just ignore it, it's not worth it" school of thought, but sooner or later you get tired of someone making light of something so serious.

It's funny how the guy making offensive remarks is a jokester, but the people offended by it run the risk of being branded as "all whazzo".
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 11:49 PM

QUOTE(filipo @ Oct 13 2008, 03:52 PM) View Post

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Brilliant, Campy.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif I second that!!!
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 11:50 PM

Brilliant, Campy.

thanks! most just call me, "dumbazz!".

can you just picture doris day sing it to lance as she holds him tightly?!?!

i figure that if lance is going for 'the full program' this time around, he's already skipped gen 5 and is well into a gen 6 booster headed to ignite the thrusters on gen 7 right between the giro and the tour. if 'old' lance 'gifts' albert a mountaintop victory after 35minutes of extraterrestrial abuse on their foes...well, i'm guessing it's just lance's big ol' texas heart is back in tip-top tune again.

i'm afraid the aso, wada, lndd and fl-whatever-the-hell they are are going to be more frustrated than a eunuch at a vegas hookers convention. no non-negatives for tex.

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 12:08 AM

He knows it offends people but he continues to do it.

and that's what i love about him! he reminds of a young...lance!

It's funny how the guy making offensive remarks is a jokester

did you hear the one about the paki and the redneck ohio farmers? oh...you did? dang.

NEVER use any word, term, phrase, disease or facial expression that might possibly offend someone and...you might as well already be dead, because there ain't much anyone can say, think or gesticulate anymore that ain't (can i use 'ain't' twice in a run-on sentence without offending the grammar nazis?) that's not (triple negative! he's got talent! can the kid go four four?!?!) going to freak out half of the mother teresas or ayatollahs on the planet.

unlax! i put up this post so you guys could all gang up on lance. heck, winter ain't even here yet (i absolutely drilled 23 miles like cancelara on a flattish itt in 75 degree sunshine this afternoon!) and i can't wait for next season to start.

it's put up or shut up time for the popes, pundits and prognasticators.

edit: i forgot to add...

i don't know who your deceased relatives are pullin' for, but i'll guarandangtee you my mom's in heaven (with dad...heart attack n his case) and she's screaming for lance to win again. mom always went for a winner.

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 06:42 AM

QUOTE(CAMPYBOB @ Oct 13 2008, 06:38 PM) View Post

que cera, cera!



I like what you did there; good [i]jeu de mots

Not bad for a septic

This post has been edited by The Rake: 14 October 2008 - 06:47 AM

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