[N.B.O.L.]

The tour has it's first doping case of the 2011 race.
Kolobnev tests positive

And the first to know??? Why L'Equipe of course.

[Strategy]

What a pity. Have always liked Kolobnev for his unrelenting willingness to try attacks.

[wildeone]

me too...

why was he tested anyways? sacrificial lamb?

[Burkni]

Like him as a rider but absolutely not surprised to see him fail a test.

[Strategy]

Burkni, on 11 July 2011 - 07:55 PM, said:

Like him as a rider but absolutely not surprised to see him fail a test.

No, not really. Now that I think back over it, he has been in the limelight in a couple of doping cases. I think he was mentioned in the Austrian blood bank case. He was also mentioned in the Spanish case against our old friend Dr Losa were LL Sanchez, Moreno, Mate, Mancebo, Garcia Da Pena, Mosquera, and Sevilla were also said to be involved.

This post has been edited by Strategy: 11 July 2011 - 08:05 PM

[N.B.O.L.]

Does L'Equipe actually have a news desk inside the laboratory? Even if they do, how in the heck do they know who's test it is? The Lab isn't supposed to have that information.

[Veloflash]

N.B.O.L., on 11 July 2011 - 08:18 PM, said:

Does L'Equipe actually have a news desk inside the laboratory? Even if they do, how in the heck do they know who's test it is? The Lab isn't supposed to have that information.

It can only be inside information from the UCI to L'Equipe.

As proven in the 2005 scientific analysis of the 1999 TdF B samples Ressiot of L'Equipe needed, through deceiving LA to obtain authorisation for his TUE, the UCI rider identification codes.

[buddy]

This seems to be a similar drug to those of the 4 Brazilian swimmers who were recently busted during their national championships. One of those being the reigning world 50 & 100m freestyle champion.

What do you think his penalty was by his national federation. The results from the national championships were annulled. No suspension. Zipp, nada, nothing. Fortunately the FINA (governing body is appealing to CAS)

Unbelievable. They must have seen how the Spanish dealt with Contador.

Anyway back to Kolobnev. Pity, but it had to happen didn't it.

I like the bit where he has to pay his team 5 times his salary if busted. We now await the B sample. Hang on ..... of course it was the steak.

Thanks,

Buddy

[The Rake]

Alongside Karpets and Ivanov, Kolobnev scored 5pts on the Suspicious Results table from last year's Tour de France

[Strategy]

Interestingly, Kim Andersen has gone out in the wake of the Kolobnev case and pretty much guaranteed that the riders on his team are clean (and while I don't really give much for the UCI suspicious least, wasn't Gerdemann one of those pretty high up on that list?) In any case: Big Words - and I sincerely hope that they don't come back to haunt him some day. I actually like that he dares to make such statements, although I am slightly dubious about how wise such statements are.

[rational head]

Whatever Kolobnev was masking, if he was, it does not appear his program was either very sophisticated or smart.

Hydrochlorothiazide is detectable since 1985 (each year there are about 100 cases world-wide) and is definitely not the best deuretic for masking.

Using it in the middle of the Tour de France is plain dumb considering its acute adverse impact on electrolyte balance and the detectability window of several days (half life is listed as 5-14 hours).

The few factual crumbs that I gathered suggest that Kolobnev was targeted. It follows from 3 separate published facts:

-he hasn't won nor placed in any stages in the current Tour,
-his fateful sample was taken in the morning of July 6 - a rarity for a urine test since usually only blood samples are collected early morning or when overnight EPO microdosing is suspected.
-his medical records were sought after and seized in the police raid in Italy.

I doubt he will skate.

[The Rake]

Strategy, on 13 July 2011 - 12:22 PM, said:

Interestingly, Kim Andersen has gone out in the wake of the Kolobnev case and pretty much guaranteed that the riders on his team are clean (and while I don't really give much for the UCI suspicious least, wasn't Gerdemann one of those pretty high up on that list?) In any case: Big Words - and I sincerely hope that they don't come back to haunt him some day. I actually like that he dares to make such statements, although I am slightly dubious about how wise such statements are.

Gerdemann was a 6

[N.B.O.L.]

The Rake, on 14 July 2011 - 07:12 AM, said:

Gerdemann was a 6

Wasn't it Gerdemann who a couple of years ago invited a camera crew to following him 24/7 during the tour?

[wildeone]

N.B.O.L., on 14 July 2011 - 12:27 PM, said:

Wasn't it Gerdemann who a couple of years ago invited a camera crew to following him 24/7 during the tour?

yep.

[Strategy]

The Rake, on 14 July 2011 - 07:12 AM, said:

Gerdemann was a 6

Yeah, I thought the same when he made such statements. Then again, there are a lot of those ratings that made absolutely no sense to me.

[Veloflash]

Kolobnev's positive follows Ferrari investigation

Russian Alexandr Kolobnev (Katusha) was the first rider to fail a doping test in this year's Tour de France. His name, however, was already on investigators' lists last year as part of a Michele Ferrari/Lance Armstrong investigation.

Italian prosecutor Benedetto Roberti in Padova ordered raids in April as part of his investigation of Michele Ferrari, Armstrong's former trainer.