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#1 Guest_chris t_*

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Posted 02 May 2006 - 04:41 AM

Under 23 Liege

Kai Reus just won the under 23 Liege.

This newly minted 21 year old is the next star to come out of the Rabobank espoir academy.

I think this can be a good thread for Under 23's before we get an exclusive forum.

Danes

Matti Breschel 31.08.84
Anders Lund 14.02.85
André Steensen 12.10.87
Anders Berendt Hansen 03.09.86
Jan Almblad 04.09.85
Kristoffer G. Nielsen 20.05.85
Chris Anker Sørensen 05.09.84
Martin Mørtensen 05.11.84
Martin Pedersen 15.04.83

Norwegian

Edvald Hagen Boason 17.05.87

Dutch

Thomas Dekker
Kai Reus 11.03.85
Robert Gesink 31.05.86
Lars Boom 30.12.85
Tom Veelers 14.09.84
Tom Stamsnijder 15.05.85

Belgians

Dominique Cornu 10.10.85
Pieter Jacobs 06.06.86
Gianni Meersman 05.12.85

Italians

Eros Capecchi 13.06.86
Oscar Gatto 01.01.85
Mauro Santambroggio 07.10.84
Jacobo Guarnieri

Australians

Will Walker 31.10.85
Chris Sutton 10.09.84
Simon Clarke 18.07.86
Mark Jamieson 04.05.84
Matt Goss 05.11.86
Nic Sanderson 27.05.84
Sean Finning 22.01.85
Michael Ford 23.04.86
Miles Olman 23.02.86
Wesley Sulzberger 20.10.86
Shaun Higgerson 27.12.84
Matthew Lloyd 24.05.83
Daniel McConnell 09.08.85
Travis Meyer 08.06.89
Scott Sunderland 16.03.88
Leigh Howard 18.10.89
Cameron Meyer
Aaron Kemps 10.09.83

Germans

Gerald Ciolek 19.09.86
Heinrich Haussler 25.02.84
Tony Martin
Marcel Kittel
Patrick Gretsch
Stefan Schäfer

Swiss

Michael Schär

Ukraines

Dmytro Grabovskyy 30.09.85
Oleg Chuzhda 08.05.85

Russians

Mikhail Ignatiev 07.05.85
Valerey Valynin 10.12.86
Iouri Trofimov 26.01.84
Sergey Kolesnikov 10.03.86
Andrey Klyuev 13.06.87
Evgeny Popov 18.09.84
Dmitry Sokolov
Ivan Rovny
Timofey Kritskiy
Alexander Khatuntsev

Czech

Roman Kreuziger 06.05.86

Americans

Tyler Farrar 02.06.84
Taylor Tolleson 13.07.85
Craig Lewis 10.01.85
Lucas Sebastian Haedo

Spaniards

Luis León Sánchez Gil 24.11.83
Arkaitz Duran 18.05.86
Beñat Intxausti 20.03.86
Jose Joaquim Rojas Gil 02.06.85
Oscar Garcia Casarrubios Pintor 07.06.84
Vincente Peiro Marqueno 07.01.84
Arkaitz Duran Aroca 18.05.86

French

Rémy Di Grégorio 31.07.85
Stéphane Poulhies
Blaise Sonnery
Aurelien Passeron
Emilien Benoit Berges

New Zealand

Peter Latham 08.01.84

British

Mark Cavendish 21.05.85
Geraint Thomas
Ian Stannard

Belarussian

Branislau Samoilau 25.05.85

Luxembourgish

Andy Schleck 16.06.85

Swede

Viktor Renäng 24.05.86
Thomas Lovkvist 04.04.84
Johan Lindgren

Slovakia

Ivan Rovny 30.09.87
Peter Velits 21.02.85
Martin Velits 21.02.85

Slovenia

Janez Brajkovic 18.12.83
Simon Spilak

South Africa

John-Lee Augustyn 10.08.86

Tunisia

Rafaâ Chtioui

This post has been edited by chris t: 22 May 2006 - 01:17 AM

#2 Guest_chris t_*

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Posted 02 May 2006 - 04:34 PM

Here is Gamblor's top 40 list of under 23's.

1. Branislau Samoilau
2. Thomas Dekker
3. Vicenzo Nibali
4. William Walker
5. Dmytro Grabovsky
6. Jose Joaquim Rojas Gil
7. Ivan Rovny
8. Michail Ignatiev
9. Kai Reus
10. Serguey Kolesnikov
11. Oscar Garcia Casarubios Pintor
12. Gerald Ciolek
13. Eros Capecchi
14. Roman Kreuziger
15. Robert Gesink
16. Oleg Chuzda
17. Jacobo Guarnieri
18. Mauro Santambroggio
19. Arcaitz Duran Aroca
20. Lars Boom
21. Peter Velits
22. Dominique Cornu
23. Andy Schleck
24. Oscar Gatto
25. Matti Breschel
26. Dmitry Sokolov
27. Ruben Reig Conjero
28. Matteo Ciavatta
29. Benat Intxausti
30. Michael Schär
31. Simon Spilak
32. Andre Steensen
33. Tony Martin
34. Maxim Belkov
35. Eladio Sanchez Prado
36. Thomas Vedel Kvist
37. Jaroslaw Marycz
38. Rafael Serrano Fernandez
39. Edvald Hagen Boason
40. Diego Milan Jimene

Gamblor, could not find room for Haussler nor Jamieson? Or did you say in Danish that Haussler you assumed was establishe pro not a neo-pro in this classification?

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Posted 03 May 2006 - 06:54 AM

Can you really still rate Dekker as an u/23 dince he is now pro. Regardless that his birth certificate says he is still u/23.

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 04:39 AM

Rabobank Continental doing the business yet again...

31st Thüringen-Rundfahrt

Prologue - May 9: Waltershausen TTT, 4.3 km
Results

1 South Australia.com-AIS 5.06
2 Rabobank Continental Team 0.01
3 Team POT Cottbus 0.02
4 USA National Team 0.07
5 Danish National Team 0.08

General classification after prologue

1 Matthew Goss (Aus) South Australia.com-AIS 5.06
2 Simon Clarke (Aus) South Australia.com-AIS
3 Wesley Salzberger (Aus) South Australia.com-AIS
4 Will Walker (Aus) Rabobank Continental Team
5 Jonathon Clarke (Aus) South Australia.com-AIS
6 Arjen De Baat (Ned) Rabobank Continental Team
7 Lars Boom (Ned) Rabobank Continental Team 0.01
8 Thom Van Dulmen (Ned) Rabobank Continental Team
9 Robert Gesink (Ned) Rabobank Continental Team
10 Marcel Fischer (Ger) Team POT Cottbus 0.02

Stage 1 - May 10: Waltershausen – Bad Berka, 158,8 km
Results

1 Edvaid Boasson Hagen (Nor) Team Maxbo Bianchi 4.04.10
2 Tony Martin (Ger) Thüringer Energie Team 0.01
3 Raphael Nick (Swi) Swiss National Team 0.03
4 Mark Cavendish (GBr) Team Sparkasse 0.15
5 Andreas Stauff (Ger) Team Akud Arnolds Sicherheit
6 Matthew Goss (Aus) Team Southaustralia.com-AIS
7 Robert Kriegs (Ger) German National Team
8 Michal Skvarka (Svk) Slovakian National Team
9 Sebastian Schwager (Ger) Thüringer Energie Team
10 Sebastian Frey (Ger) Team Sparkasse

General classification after stage 1

1 Edvaid Boasson Hagen (Nor) Team Maxbo Bianchi 4.09.16
2 Tony Martin (Ger) Thüringer Energie Team 0.09
3 Raphael Nick (Swi) Swiss National Team 0.11
4 Christoph Hoffmann (Ger) Team POT Cottbus 0.14
5 Matthew Goss (Aus) Team Southaustralia.com-AIS 0.15
6 Arjen De Baat (Ned) Rabobank Continental Team
7 Simon Clarke (Aus) Team Southaustralia.com-AIS
8 Will Walker (Aus) Rabobank Continental Team
9 Wesley Salzberger (Aus) Team Southaustralia.com-AIS
10 Lars Boom (Ned) Rabobank Continental Team 0.16

Stage 2 - May 11: Bad Berka – Ilmenau, 172,8 km
Results

1 Dimitri Kozontschuk (Rus) Rabobank Continental Team 4.41.31
2 Will Walker (Aus) Rabobank Continental Team
3 Markus Eibegger (Aut) Austrian National Team 0.43
4 Tony Martin (Ger) Thüringer Energie Team
5 Andre Steensen (Den) Danish National Team 1.29
6 Alexander Gottfried (Ger) Team Sparkasse

General classification after stage 2

1 Will Walker (Aus) Rabobank Continental Team 8.50.56
2 Dimitri Kozontschuk (Rus) Rabobank Continental 0.17
3 Tony Martin (Ger) Thüringer Energie Team 0.43
4 Markus Eibegger (Aut) Austrian National Team 1.00
5 Andre Steensen (Den) Danish National Team 1.43
6 Alexander Gottfried (Ger) Team Sparkasse 1.45

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#5 Strategy

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 11:31 AM

Good to see Steensen doing so well, as this is his first year in the U-23 ranks. He will be closely followed by Danish fans (he was the World Number 1 rank in the Juniors last year).

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 11:33 AM

Will Walker should take this one.

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 01:41 PM

What a great name for a cycling team: Sparkasse!!

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Posted 13 May 2006 - 09:48 AM

1. Will Walker (AUS/Rabobank) 11 h.20:47
2. Dimitri Kozontschuk (RUS) + 47.
3. Tony Martin (GER) 49.
4. Andre Steensen (DEN) 1:51.
5. Markus Eibegger (AUT) 2:07.
6. Simon Geschke (GER) 2:27.

after stage 3

i remember Tony Martin winning an uphill ITT 2005, he was stagiaire at Gerolsteiner
it was the Regio-Tour

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Posted 15 May 2006 - 02:33 PM

1. Tony Martin (GER/Thüringer Energie) 18 h.35:07
2. Will Walker (AUS) + 51
3. Edvald Boasson Hagen (NOR) 57
4. Markus Eibegger (AUT) 1:11
5. Dimitri Kosontschuk (RUS) 1:17
6. Gottfried Alexander (GER) 1:51
7. Andre Steensen (DEN) 2:22
8. Marcel Fischer (GER) 3:12
9. Marcel Wyss (SUI) 4:41
10. Sebastian Frey (GER) 5:36

walker crashed at the final stage

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#10 Guest_chris t_*

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 11:51 PM

top ten non pro espoirs
1. Mikhail Ignatiev
2. Kai Reus
3. Branislav Samoilau
4. John-Lee Augustyn
5. Dmytro Grabovskyy
6. Will Walker
7. Lars Boom
8. Edvald Boasson Hagen
9. Mark Cavendish
10. Matthew Goss

This post has been edited by chris t: 23 May 2006 - 11:09 PM

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 11:54 PM

I've heard of a junior Geraint Thomas (British) I think he won the junior Paris Roubaix, and got a T-Mobile development deal I think he had a nasty crash last year and broke his pelvis. Anybody heard of him?

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 11:58 PM

QUOTE(Jan the man @ May 19 2006, 11:54 PM)

he is a decent timetrialler, lacks power on the climbs. Needless to say, he ain't no Gatesie.

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Posted 20 May 2006 - 02:50 AM

QUOTE(chris t @ May 19 2006, 06:51 PM)

top ten non pro espoirs

6. Lars Boom

Am I totally mis-remembering or is this guy not a pro cyclocross guy? I guess that would mean not pro road.

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Posted 20 May 2006 - 03:29 AM

QUOTE(Markk @ May 20 2006, 02:50 AM)

Am I totally mis-remembering or is this guy not a pro cyclocross guy? I guess that would mean not pro road.

rabo espoirs road

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Posted 20 May 2006 - 09:33 AM

Well T. Dekker is still only 21. People sometimes forget that. I think he should be listed as Nr 1 U23 rider. He was the Nr. 1 by a very large margin when he was still racing in the U23 races.......

QUOTE(P F @ May 3 2006, 08:54 AM)

Can you really still rate Dekker as an u/23 dince he is now pro. Regardless that his birth certificate says he is still u/23.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 12:15 AM

QUOTE(MJtje @ May 20 2006, 09:33 AM)

Well T. Dekker is still only 21. People sometimes forget that. I think he should be listed as Nr 1 U23 rider. He was the Nr. 1 by a very large margin when he was still racing in the U23 races.......

there is atleast one better timetrialler than him in the espoirs though.

Mikhail Ignatiev is an absolute BEAST.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 12:52 AM

Well when you put dekker in this categorie you have to out Brajkovic in it too.He beat Dekker at the worlds and seems to progress as a stage racer and is still 22 years old..

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 01:03 AM

QUOTE(Rosicky @ May 21 2006, 12:52 AM)

Well when you put dekker in this categorie you have to out Brajkovic in it too.He beat Dekker at the worlds and seems to progress as a stage racer and is still 22 years old..

yep Brajkovic goes uphill better than Dekker and is a fine timetrialler.

Luis Leon Sanchez is similar to Dekker. Same age.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 03:21 PM

Gamblor, could not find room for Haussler nor Jamieson? Or did you say in Danish that Haussler you assumed was establishe pro not a neo-pro in this classification?
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The list I have made, is a list of riders below the age of 22, wether they are pros or not. That means Haussler is to old to be on it, since he is 22. Concerning Jamieson he could perhaps be a prospect to the list, but I prefer Goss when it comes to the Australians that should be added. But the list was made just before his very impressive wins in first Liberazione and then Regioni.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 07:50 PM

Who has won tirrenico? who has gotten 2nd in criterium international? Who has won an ITT in the tour of poland? Who was by a great length the no1 in 2004 (?) in the category U23? Who is 2-time dutch TT champion?

Btw Barjkovic got beaten by t. dekker in the eneco tour.....

Can't see a better 21-year old at the moment......

QUOTE(chris t @ May 21 2006, 03:03 AM)

yep Brajkovic goes uphill better than Dekker and is a fine timetrialler.

Luis Leon Sanchez is similar to Dekker. Same age.